Warrior Forum - The Fascist Regime

This article is guest posted by Nicola Haxby

Those of you who know me will know that my first rule for any form of Internet Marketing is to be ethical. Bad news travels far faster than good and bad ethics do not make for a sustained business model.  It is for these reasons that I am compelled to share my experience of the Warrior Forum and to cut through the common misconception that it is a high class forum that values ethical members, as I have heard it described as being.

Before I go on, type in the Google search term “Warrior Forum Banned”.  You will see horror stories of worthy marketers who have been banned unfairly and squashed like bugs.  Regrettably, I have experienced this monumental squashing too.  My crime? The mortal sin of daring to ask too many questions on a WSO (Warrior Special Offer) thread!  Asking direct and probing questions to a scammer is definitely not allowed. Yes, unbelievable but true.

Knowing what I know now, would I do the same again?  Absolutely, darn sure I would.

You may have heard rumours, or, if you have half a brain cell, noticed that the WSO section of the Warrior Forum is bulging at the seams with offers that claim to make you thousands of dollars a day.  Outlandish claims that it is easy to reach this amount in just a matter of a few weeks.  Allen Says, the owner of the Warrior Forum openly admits he is fully aware of this so comes up with a revolutionary idea - let’s charge all newbies a $37 fee for the privilege of becoming a War Room member.  A prestigious membership that allows you to post WSO’s.

I am sure Mr Says has profited handsomely and the irony of this is that honest marketers have, unknowingly, fallen prey of the first scam in my opinion.  I assume Allen Says has not considered that scammers will pay the $37 to join?  Of course he has!  It was purely a money making exercise.

Of course, no one with any civilities or ethics would condone abusing another on a forum or anywhere else for that matter, but the tight restrictions on the right to freedom of speech is so extreme on the Warrior Forum that Fascism is the best word to sum up their moderators behavior, of which Allen Says is one of.

The most distasteful practices the Warrior Forum uses is their use of nepotism selling. Using some of the top marketers names to coax you into joining up.  Stating that "they all started on the Warrior Forum" is almost like they are attributing themselves as the reason these marketers have done so well - like a twisted narcissism.
So, would I recommend you join the Warrior Forum?  On an emotional level then absolutely not.  On a business level, despite being treated like something Allen Says has just scrapped off his shoe I would say ‘yes’.  But follow some golden rules which are :

1) Keep your head well down

2) Only give lame replies in order to get your post count up

3) Kiss ass

4) Do not be a free thinking person

5) Do not defend your integrity and if you get scammed - take it on the chin and accept it!

If you can manage to prostitute your principles then you can go on to post your own WSO and cash in. Use the site like it will use you.

Remember, being ethical, helpful, honest and truthful will gain you zero points in the eyes of the moderators.

At the beginning I spoke about bad news travelling faster than good.  I would also add to that statement that, what goes around - comes around.  Online marketers are not simply an unintelligent herd of nomads that sit for hours staring into their PC monitor with vacant expressions.  Most are savvy, hard working and get wise to injustices very quickly as the word is spread.  The new age of viral marketing can, by it’s very name, spread like a virus over the Internet.

The Warrior Forum moderators need to realize that if they carry on the way they are doing, the whole forum will be filled with scammers with no ethical marketers left.  Perhaps Allen Says feels they will be in good company!

www.NicolaHaxby.com

Warrior Forum Sucks is Shocked, Shocked That Scamming Is Going On There!

Warrior Forum guru and Rich Jerk creator Kelly Felix has crawled out of the woodwork to beg for your forgiveness and more of your money. Kelly recently spewed his mea culpa on his Off The Cuff Blog.

This upstanding Warrior Forum "Guru" admits to screwing and lying to the good folks for years. In an email to her readers Tiffany Dow, a marketer I admire and respect, admits to being "...absolutely shocked..." by Kelly Felix's sins.

My reaction was more like Captain Renault's (Claude Rains) in "Casablanca" when Rick (Humphrey Bogart) asks "How can you close me up? On what grounds?"

Captain Renault: "I'm shocked, shocked to find that gambling is going on in here!"
[a croupier hands Renault a pile of money]
Croupier: "Your winnings sir."
Captain Renault: [sotto voce] "Oh, thank you very much"

Although I recognize the presence of some honest marketers like Tiffany on the Warrior Forum, I've known for a long time that the majority of gurus there are scammers while most members are sheep waiting to be fleeced. Many of the Warrior Forum "Gurus" are just fucksticks plotting dishonest ways to ram it to you at $47 a pop.

Here's a reprint of Tiffany Dow's rant against Kelly Felix. I think she paints a clear picture. If you want to learn internet marketing from a knowledgeable, honest person who cares about your success you can find Tiffany at TiffanyDow.com. Her excellent blog is here, Tiffany Dow Blog.

"You know how I talk about how seedy many of these gurus are - how
they take pride in scamming you, how they scam each other, etc? I
was absolutely shocked today when I stumbled upon a blog post by
Kelly Felix (aka: Rich Jerk) that said these things:

1.) "I also knew less than 5% of my customers were successful. I
would rationalize it by thinking those sub-5% were the only people
who took action, as so many other marketers do. But this simply
isn't true. It's just a cop-out."

Tiff again: How many times have you seen the "well they didn't take
action" cop out? I can't even count that high!

2.) "After all, the people who bought the $10k coaching that I
outsourced sure "took action". A $10k committment is a HUGE
"action". And I simply got my $3k cut from the coaching floor and
passed the responsibility onto them to fulfill upon their promises.
Rarely did I check up on any of those individual customers or
receive a glowing testimonial about the coaching. But I didn't
care."

Tiff again: Exactly. They take your money, they deliver"something"
and DO NOT CARE whether you ever succeed. They DO NOT CARE.

3.) "Selling with scarcity tactics, such as "only 12 copies left",
or "only 5 minutes left", or "re-opening the doors for a short
time" ... it's all garbage marketing. Even if the statement happens
to be true, why limit perfectly abundant information?"

Tiff again: Exactly! I hate stupid scarcity tactics. Why use them?
We all know it's not true. Well, those in the IM industry at least.

4.) "And here's an insight for you: at guru masterminds, do you
think we talked about how wonderful our customers were? I wish that
were the case. Looking back... how dare I talk sh*t about my
customers. As if I owned them and was doing them some huge favor.
It's disgusting. And not only was there customer-bashing, but we
literally complained about how new rules constantly made it tougher
for us to sell people using bullsh*t tactics."

Tiff again: Scum is too nice of a word to describe what goes on
behind the scenes with these gurus. I have told you how a well known
marketer I ghostwrote for for YEARS had me create a product from
one of his seminars. He sent me the recordings and guess what I
heard? He was bashing me to the entire group - talking about how he
outsourced to a really good writer but made her feel inferior on
purpose and told her certain projects should command as much money. I confronted
him about it and he laughed it off. I was humiliated and MAD. I quit
writing for him. They're laughing at YOU too - Kelly admitted it!
And yet you continue buying from these guru blowhards and working
as an affiliate for them, too!

Now for the best part of his blog post - LISTEN UP:

5.) "Be suspicious of push-button solutions. Be suspicious of
products with names like "Underground grim reaper autopilot gold
bar instant millionaire wealth generator." Be suspicious of
anything that says "earn up to 8 billion dollars per second." I
know it all seems like a no-brainer but people are actually still
buying this stuff. Be suspicious of product launches. Be suspicious
of cut and paste emails you receive from 42 different people. Be
suspicious of anything that "everyone is talking about". Be
suspicious of anything with a bonus or "downsell". Be suspicious of
ME."

Tiff again: I read this and I swear I want to scream. Yeah it's
great that he's saying all this now. How much money has been LOST
from hard working people because of HIM and those like him? I love
the last line. I love it. And I am, Kelly - I am. I'm even
suspicious of why you wrote this blog post. I smell a product coming on.

And look at one of the comments "John" posted on this blog post:

"While it is better than marketing with fear, this whole post is a
cleaver marketing tactic in its own. Bad guy gone good who can now
help you with his new product. This whole post is geared towards
getting people to trust YOU and not others because you are calling
then out on their marketing tactics."

EXACTLY JOHN!!

Unless they've been honest with you from day one, fear them and
don't believe them. Period.

There's so much slime out there you need to take a shower after
working online for five minutes.

Tiff"
Source: Tiffany Dow

Ripoff Report on Kelly Felix

Steven Wagenheim Claims He Is Stupid

Back when I was naive enough to think the Warrior Forum would embrace a free and open discussion of internet marketing, one of the Warrior Forum members attempting to squash free speech and censor me was "resident WF dipshit Steven Wagenheim". I remember laughing at this fruitcake's nonsense but recoiling at his avatar image. He is one strange looking dude.

Steven Wagenheim is the poster boy for the Warrior Forum. He is a composite of all that is bad about the Warrior Forum. Turtleknife gives us a peek into Steve's marketing mind in the post "More Warrior Forum Nonsense".

It's pretty funny to read about Steve's threats to sue anybody and everybody he feels has done him wrong. This knucklehead actually claimed he was suing Google for launching SideWiki!

Wagenheim also goes on a rant about people who use his videos and make funny photos of him. As Turtleknife points out however, it was Steven Wagenheim who posted all his download links in a YouTube video description for anyone to use!

When Wagenheim finally realizes how ridiculous the Warrior Forum thread makes him look, he exclaims, "I am stupid!"

Read Turtleknife's article, "More Warrior Forum Nonsense" to get a sense of what Steven Wagenheim and other Warrior Forum crybabies (professional marketers?) are really like.

Warrior Forum Dipshit

I'm sitting in front of my computer still laughing my ass off at the title and article on PPC.BZ called "Man Has Orgasm Over Warrior Forum Product, Never Touches Vagina".

It's a brief but devastatingly hilarious take on " resident Warrior Forum dipshit" Steven Wagenheim staining his panties over another useless WSO.

The video Barman refers to has been removed from YouTube but the post is still worth checking out. The blog, PPC.BZ, is one of the most useful and entertaining marketing blogs you will ever read.

Warrior Forum Moderator's Censorship Reward

To keep his Warrior Forum moderators banning innocent members at a feverish pace, each month Allen Says rewards the moderator who permanently bans the most members.

The "Warrior Forum Sucks" Detective Division was lucky to catch the most recent winner enjoying his night out on Allen Says.

As we can see from the photo below, this Warrior Forum moderator is as skilled with the ladies as he is moderating an online marketing forum.

Warrior Forum Censorship

A warrior by definition is one experienced in war, a person engaged in some struggle or conflict. Newbies and veteran members of the Warrior Forum certainly fit that description because they must struggle each day just to be heard on that incompetently run marketing forum.

The reason for this is the Warrior Forum's absolute hatred of free speech. Some well meaning marketers will begin informative, interesting threads only to have them killed by bungling, bush-league, snot nosed moderators. The Warrior Forum mods are cowards but Allen Says has given these wimps the power to silence the true warriors.

Censorship is rampant on the Warrior Forum. Folks there are not allowed to speak freely. If you do try to speak, there is a very good chance that you will be banned by the Warrior Forum.

Once banned, you'll get a belly laugh from the Warrior Forum notice. Here's what it will look like:

You've got to love the "Date the ban will be lifted:" Never !!!!!!!!!! Now there's an organization one can be proud to claim membership in hey? There is no appeal because one would have to exercise freedom of speech to present an appeal and you should know by now that the Warrior Forum hates free speech.

Censorship vs. Free Speech! Free Thought, Dangerous Ideas

Does the Warrior Forum take its censorship policy from China?


For the following video all credit to Zoe Sofia, Zyche Truth.